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 91 
 on: July 26, 2008, 08:41:16 pm 
Started by kittencakes7 - Last post by moi
hey lenny.... do you feel like joel and drew PLANNED for you to come down and have that altercation that ended up with YOU in jail today?

it feels soooooooooooooo much like a set up to me...
your thoughts?

There is absolutely, positively, no doubt in my mind, or, imo, Chief McGrury's, that this was a huge setup.  No way would cameras have been set up, newspeople there, etc. when Len showed up at the mall.  This simply must stop.  Would I protect my children - absolutely YES.  Drew knows that Len will also protect HIS children, and this was a true setup - to have Len react like most all of us would - to protect our children.

Len, Paula - hang in there.  It will be tough, but it certainly is worth the battle.  You rule!
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well.. from what i read... that drew was supposed to get a FREEBIE haircut..(thank god he doesnt pay for those thangs *L*)... that  SOMEBODY set this up..... odd ..TOO odd that they all converge on one place at one time like that..
heck..even in MY hillbilly hick town, i would have a hard time believing a  scenerio like that  would come off without a SET UP...

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 on: July 26, 2008, 08:17:39 pm 
Started by Ashley - Last post by misspersonal
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   Re: Paula Stark and Lenny Wawczak - Wiretap
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Did you see Len/Ashely's new (July 26) post on the drewpeterson1.blogspot.com blog? More proof he is a bad liar. He starts out by saying that yes he did file a bankruptcy, but that was because of his sick mother, and that he voluntarily dismissed the case because he made arrangements to voluntarily repay the creditors. What a crock.
Go to http://www.crimefilenews.com/2008/07/len-wawczak-responds-to-crimefile-news.html and you will see the actual bankruptcy court documents. Wawczak's bankruptcy was dismissed on the motion of his mortgage bank because he and Paula Stark were trying to commit Bankruptcy Fraud. Documents don't lie. This proves that not only is Wawcak a liar, but he is a bad liar. Wawczak says he can't wait until I cross examine him at a trial. Well all I can say is too bad it will never happen because, now more than ever, I am sure Drew Peterson will never be charged.
   

 93 
 on: July 26, 2008, 06:59:21 pm 
Started by HeDidIt - Last post by curley
BigM was right again LOL LOL LOL LOL REAL CREDIBLE HUH Suckers !

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Right about what BigM?  Rats?  Well guess what?  It doesn't matter how credible YOU think Lenny and Paula are because ISP has the tapes with Drew's conversation, for which THEY were willing to wear the wires for nearly nine months.  The content of those tapes is not going to change just because Drew and Lenny had a spat today, or for anything else that happens to be reported in the news about them.....so who is the sucker here???  Hmmm?
Trust me if Drew would have given the State Police a smoking gun of something incriminating on those tapes they would have swooped in and made an arrest They are not going to let 7 months go by in one murder investigation and another possible murder investigation which is still classified as a missin person . What Paula said about waiting for the Grand jury to finish there interviews holds NO water Because if police had Drew by the balls with incriminating info Regarding Savio or Stacy Their would be no reason to wait. I may be wrong but we will see within the next two weeks to 30 days on how this plays out .

BigM....it's called "building a case"....the tapes are just one part of the soon to be downfall of Drew Peterson...you are showing your prejudice and ignorance...please go back to your own forum if you want to be "stroked"!

BigM wouldn't know what "building a case" meant, because he can't even "build a sentence" properly, can you BigM??
ooppps did I say that?

 94 
 on: July 26, 2008, 01:46:36 pm 
Started by HeDidIt - Last post by researchfanatic
BigM was right again LOL LOL LOL LOL REAL CREDIBLE HUH Suckers !

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Right about what BigM?  Rats?  Well guess what?  It doesn't matter how credible YOU think Lenny and Paula are because ISP has the tapes with Drew's conversation, for which THEY were willing to wear the wires for nearly nine months.  The content of those tapes is not going to change just because Drew and Lenny had a spat today, or for anything else that happens to be reported in the news about them.....so who is the sucker here???  Hmmm?
Trust me if Drew would have given the State Police a smoking gun of something incriminating on those tapes they would have swooped in and made an arrest They are not going to let 7 months go by in one murder investigation and another possible murder investigation which is still classified as a missin person . What Paula said about waiting for the Grand jury to finish there interviews holds NO water Because if police had Drew by the balls with incriminating info Regarding Savio or Stacy Their would be no reason to wait. I may be wrong but we will see within the next two weeks to 30 days on how this plays out .

BigM....it's called "building a case"....the tapes are just one part of the soon to be downfall of Drew Peterson...you are showing your prejudice and ignorance...please go back to your own forum if you want to be "stroked"!

 95 
 on: July 26, 2008, 01:06:12 pm 
Started by BreezyOne - Last post by noway
Stacy Peterson.           Kathleen Savio.        Justice for them both.


Maybe if Lenny can remember what this whole thing is about, he can keep his cool.

Keep a low profile would be my advice to Lenny, Paula, and their kids.

 96 
 on: July 26, 2008, 08:57:44 am 
Started by BreezyOne - Last post by sprngfldmsng3
Well, Lenny is human.  I do admire what Lenny & Paula have done for this case.  I don't understand why they are still living in the same town as DP.  They KNOW he stalks & harasses people.  The knew he would be LIVID when he was publicly immasculated with the whole Ashley revelation.  (I believe DP is more upset about the Ashley deal than the wire deal.)  They went on tv interviews & told DP precisely what they are scared of....DP hurting their kids/family.  Why on earth didn't Lenny & Paula & the 20 year old son get restraining orders before going public?  PLEASE get restraining orders now.  We all know DP just cannot control his urges.  He can't stand someone else getting media attention.  Remember him harassing Sharon with the garage door opener?  He cannot control himself.

It's truly pathetic that DP feels the need to intimidate a naive 20 year old.  Everyone with any common sense knows that DP is a serial killer.  We know he has many more victims besides Kathleen & Stacy.  Why isn't this family being protected?  Did they decline an offer of protection?  Did they want to let DP know they aren't scared of him?

Lenny didn't do the smartest thing by confronting DP.  If I had been in that situation, I probably wouldn't have been able to think clearly & keep my cool either.  Mess with my family, ya just don't do it & I wouldn't care if I went to jail, I would probably let my temper get the best of me too.  Give the guy a break!  Can you imagine how sleep deprived & stressed out he & Paula are?

Of course it was a set-up.  I'm sure it won't be the last stunt DP sets up either.  Just don't take the bait, Lenny.  Get the family somewhere he can't coincidentally run into them after tracking them down. 

LE.....what's the holdup?  ARREST DP ALREADY!!!  Why wasn't DP charged with witness intimidation or the like?  Why does this scumbag keep getting free rides?

 97 
 on: July 26, 2008, 08:30:54 am 
Started by Ashley - Last post by HeDidIt
Moi,  you have heard the name Anthony "Bindy" Rock, yes?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0802/19/ng.01.html

wolfie.. thx... dang.. i DO remember something about him... seems like i heard it A LONG TIME AGO...

thanks for the link and refresher...



All you ever wanted to know about ANTHONY BINDY ROCK can be found here:

http://www.acandyrose.com/stacy_peterson_bindy_rock_files.htm

 98 
 on: July 26, 2008, 08:15:18 am 
Started by HeDidIt - Last post by HeDidIt
BigM was right again LOL LOL LOL LOL REAL CREDIBLE HUH Suckers !

____________________________

Right about what BigM?  Rats?  Well guess what?  It doesn't matter how credible YOU think Lenny and Paula are because ISP has the tapes with Drew's conversation, for which THEY were willing to wear the wires for nearly nine months.  The content of those tapes is not going to change just because Drew and Lenny had a spat today, or for anything else that happens to be reported in the news about them.....so who is the sucker here???  Hmmm?
Trust me if Drew would have given the State Police a smoking gun of something incriminating on those tapes they would have swooped in and made an arrest They are not going to let 7 months go by in one murder investigation and another possible murder investigation which is still classified as a missin person . What Paula said about waiting for the Grand jury to finish there interviews holds NO water Because if police had Drew by the balls with incriminating info Regarding Savio or Stacy Their would be no reason to wait. I may be wrong but we will see within the next two weeks to 30 days on how this plays out .

Da Heights:

I have a question for you. If Stacy or Kathleen were your daughter or friend/relative, would you still call Lenny & Paula rats? Especially if the information they have gathered proves Drew is guilty?

 Huh

 99 
 on: July 26, 2008, 08:08:37 am 
Started by HeDidIt - Last post by HeDidIt
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-drew-peterson-wawczak-both_2jul26,0,3667032.story

Cops: Drew Peterson, ex-friend scuffle outside barbershop
Former pal charged with misdemeanor battery


By Matthew Walberg and Mary Owen | Chicago Tribune reporters
July 26, 2008
A Bolingbrook man who reportedly worked with police to secretly record Drew Peterson was charged with misdemeanor battery after he pushed Peterson outside a barbershop Friday, police said.

"Best $100 I ever spent," said Len Wawczak as he left the Bolingbrook Police Department after posting the money as bail.

Police said Wawczak shoved Peterson twice during a quarrel outside Hyroglyphics Barber Shop on Friday afternoon, witnessed by more than 20 people. Wawczak was charged and released about 4:30 p.m., Bolingbrook Police Chief Ray McGury said.

Witnesses said Peterson "was egging him [Wawczak] on, sort of in his personal space," said Bolingbrook Police Lt. Ken Teppel. "But Lenny admitted he shoved him."



"The saga continues here in Bolingbrook," McGury said.

Wawczak—who claimed this week to have secretly recorded Peterson for Illinois State Police in their investigation of the 2004 death of Peterson's third wife and the October disappearance of his current wife—said his son, Len Jr., 20, called him from a hair salon located next door to Hyroglyphics.

Wawczak said his son told him Peterson was staring at him and intimidating him. Wawczak then drove from his home to confront Peterson. He waited in the parking lot until Peterson came outside, and then pushed the former Bolingbrook police sergeant in the back as the two exchanged words.

Wawczak said that while he was upset to hear reports that Peterson had been saying he slept with Wawczak's wife, Paula Stark, that was not the reason for the confrontation.

"You don't mess with my kid," he said. "I'm a parent who's going to stand my ground."

Meanwhile, police were curious about circumstances surrounding the incident.

Joliet Herald-News reporter Joe Hosey—who has written a book about the Peterson case due to be released this fall—was on the scene when police arrived, and a photograph showing Wawczak and Peterson facing off in the parking lot was posted on the newspaper's Web site while the two men were still at the station giving their statements, McGury said.

"It seems odd that I've got Mr. Peterson and him [Wawczak] at the same location," McGury said.

Another police source said Hosey was at the barbershop before authorities arrived. "We got a call from the state police saying, 'You guys gotta get over to this barbershop because Drew and Lenny are getting into it'," said the source. "It sort of stunk to us when we're out there to sort this out and there's already photos posted."

Joliet Herald-News managing editor David Monaghan declined to comment, but Wawczak offered an explanation for Hosey's being there. He said the reporter was at his home interviewing him when Wawczak's son called from the barbershop and Hosey followed him over.

"It wasn't staged or anything," Wawczak said.

Hyroglyphics owner Ernest Brown described the kerfuffle as underwhelming.

"It looked like 'Cheaters,' " said Brown, referring to the television show in which people confront their unfaithful lovers. "If you were looking for a way to describe it, that's the best way to put it."

Brown said Drew Peterson had come in for a haircut, but the barbershop was too busy, so he was referred to another shop.

When Peterson walked to the parking lot, Wawczak confronted him, Brown said. No punches were thrown, Brown said adding, "It was just basically a scuffle in the parking lot."

Peterson's attorney Joel Brodsky said he did not know why the incident started and did not know whether his client claimed to have had a sexual relationship with Stark.

"I don't know, I don't want to know, I don't need to know," Brodsky said.

"All I know is that my client is at home, and the state's confidential informant is charged with misdemeanor battery."

mwalberg@tribune.com

mowen@tribune.com


 100 
 on: July 26, 2008, 07:43:09 am 
Started by HeDidIt - Last post by HeDidIt
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/news/1075977,2_1_AU26_PETERSON_S1.article

A 'look,' a phone call, then the cops came


July 26, 2008Recommend

By JOE HOSEY jhosey@scn1.com
At noon Friday, Paula Stark heard from a TV reporter that Drew Peterson was bragging about sleeping with her.

Stark and her husband, Len Wawczak, shared a laugh over that in their Bolingbrook home, saying it wasn't true.


Lenny Wawczak (left) confronts Drew Peterson in the parking lot of a strip mall in Bolingbrook Friday afternoon. Police were called to the scene, and both went to the station to give statements.
(Janet Lundquis/STNG)


But an hour later, when their son, Len Jr., called to say Peterson was giving him a dirty look at a Bolingbrook barbershop, Wawczak had enough.

Wawczak and Stark -- the Bolingbrook couple who said this week that for seven months they wore a wire when they were with Peterson, their neighbor and former friend -- got in their van so Wawczak could confront the former Bolingbrook cop, who has been under a cloud of suspicion since his fourth wife disappeared last fall.

What followed was another sordid chapter in the Peterson saga, an expletive-filled, Jerry Springer-esque parking lot dustup -- witnessed by reporters -- that resulted in Wawczak, 41, shoving Peterson in the back and getting arrested on a battery charge.

"I wanted to let Drew know he's not going to mess with my family," Wawczak said after his wife posted his $100 bond. "The next time, I will knock his (expletive) out.

"It was the best 100 bucks I've ever spent. I'd do it again."

Confrontation

Wawczak and Stark have been under a media siege since the news broke Wednesday that they secretly taped Peterson for State Police investigators probing the Oct. 28 disappearance of Stacy Peterson and the 2004 homicide of Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio.
Peterson, who police labeled a suspect in Stacy's "potential homicide," denies having anything to do with either case.

Wawczak and Stark hadn't seen Peterson since the news of their clandestine police help broke. Peterson and his attorney have gone on national TV to call them liars.

Then came the barbershop phone call from Len Wawczak Jr.

The 20-year-old was getting his hair cut at a Bolingbrook shop on North Schmidt Road when Peterson walked in, looking for a free trim he had been promised.

Len Jr. called his parents, telling them Peterson just gave him dirty looks, they said.

Peterson denies that.

"I was just getting my hair cut, and I saw the kid in the chair," he said later. "I kind of figured he would call his dad."

Wawczak, intent on confronting Peterson about the dirty looks, first waited for Peterson around the corner from the barbershop, but then found a spot between some cars to lie in wait. When Peterson emerged with a fresh new haircut and beard trim, Wawczak popped out and pounced.

"Hey, (expletive)," he called out. "You ain't nothing but a murderer. I'll beat the (expletive) out of you. Say something!"

"Hit me," Peterson said calmly, putting his hands behind his back. "I'm going down."

"You ain't nothing but a punk, Drew!"

"Someone call the cops," Peterson told a growing crowd of gawkers, including barbershop patrons, capes still tied around their necks. One began videotaping.

"Take the cool sunglasses off," Wawczak said, trying to knock them off Peterson, who dodged him.

"I ain't Stacy, (expletive)," Wawczak taunted. "You sissy."

"I don't have to deal with this boy," Peterson said and walked away. Wawczak then pushed Peterson's back.

Police called

Peterson, who later said his back hurt, brushed it off and got into Stacy Peterson's Pontiac Grand Prix. Wawczak walked away, saying, "I proved my point. You're nothing but a (expletive)."
Peterson made a cell phone call and emerged from his car. The crowd yelled for Wawczak to return.

"Knock his (expletive) out," someone shouted.

"I got 50 bucks of his bond right now," said another.

Peterson and Wawczak then stood across a car from each other, and Wawczak confronted him about Peterson's purported claims about his wife.

"Say right now you (expletive) my old lady! I'll come around right now and drop you like you want," Wawczak said.

Peterson denied saying it -- as eight police cars arrived. Peterson spoke with officers before getting in the Grand Prix and driving to the police station where he once worked to give his account.

Wawczak rode in the front seat of a squad car to the station, where he was arrested and charged with battery. After his wife posted his bond, he was unrepentant.

"If I knew I was getting arrested, I would have knocked the (expletive) out," he said.

Wawczak is due in court Sept. 10. He said he'll leave Peterson alone -- as long as Peterson doesn't mess with his family.

"Then I'm going for the Mike Tyson TKO," he said.

Janet Lundquist contributed to this story.


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